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natalie_fid
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« on: September 07, 2011, 03:00:56 PM »

I know primescape has an array of poinsettia tree stands for sale... anyone else? I'm trying to price this out for a client. Also- anyone have expirince servicing, installing...etc?? I'd love to get some feedback on what to plan for.
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Matthew Gardner
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 04:33:53 PM »

You can have the client purchase it outright, and have you store it for them for a fee (unless they have space on site)  Or it can be purchased by you and rented to the client -- it can take several years for your ROI this way.

Stage the points with either Dri-Water, or use rock wool or Sippers.  Even so, look at weekly care to make sure it stays well groomed.

Have fun with the design, use different colors, other design elements and have a ring of something around the base (not in the cachepots) to add more visual interest as well as $$ to your bottom line.

Have fun with this!   I've seen many of these, it is still a good classic look for the holidays.

MG
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smallscaper
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 05:07:20 PM »

This is one we have used in addition to the Primescape model:

http://www.creativedisplaycenter.com/

Avoid placing the stand near any heat duct vents in the ceiling or you will live to regret it (but the poinsettias won't).  Use whatever staging/subirrigation method you like...Sippers, Oasis disks, etc.  Not sure whether the latest generation Aquafur is more structurally stable than the older versions; if so, that would be an option as well.

We have used the no-hole liners with the Primescape stands and Oasis disks with good success but on a twice-weekly service interval (ouch).  Also, we have used speedcovers (good, quality, heavy-gauge ones, not el-cheapos) in the rings of the Creative Displays model with no subirrigation at all and had very good success with weekly servicing (better).  The speedcovers can give you a bit of glitz poking through the foliage, or dark green to blend in.

These displays are VERY labor-intensive to install, maintain and take down (including grooming and cleaning up messes and replacing plants here and there).  That cost usually is the deal-breaker when it comes to closing the sale.  But don't cheat yourself on that line item, or you will also live to regret that.  It'll be a Blue Christmas if you're paying more for labor than you're being paid by the client!

Clem
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Julie A. Blymire
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 06:44:12 PM »

Depending on how long the customer wants these onsite (some want as long as a week or two before Thanksgiving up through 2 weeks after New Years), you may want to figure two sets of poinsettias, especially if they are in the dark.  They get so labor-intensive to remove dead that it may be more cost-effective to change to the new set with less droppage issues.

Julie
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Patty
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 06:46:46 PM »

As for design ideas, there was a really cool one done at PIA in Vegas last week.  I had pictures sent to me from a friend, but there is a picture on the PIA facebook page.  

It was filled with broms and the frame was wrapped/ covered with ribbon.
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barb helfman
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 07:02:24 PM »

Trust me, you want to use the very best, sturdiest and that is the one from Primescape.  Particularly for the larger ones (up to 20 feet tall).  Call them for the number of pts it holds, figure in thier no hole 7" liners, and get the freight costs to you.  These things weigh a ton and if you don't factor in the freight, you lose.

Next, use either oasis discs or Sippers.  I recommend SIPPERS of course and they are available through TOPsiders.  Remember, they are reusable, just make sure techs don't throw them out.  After Holiday, use them for other bloomers and 6" and 8" greenery for the rest of the year.   

At the base of the tree, I suggest 8" Boston Fern.  Green and lush.

Lastly, I always suggest renting the frame and charging the customer for the pts, fern and the service.  Try for a 3 year contract and double your money over the three years.   At the end of that time, you still own it.  Plus, you are making your usual profit each year for the pts and fern, These are spectcular and you can make a lot if you think it thru in advance.  Now, go get 'em.  Barb
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Bob Skillings
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2011, 12:22:07 PM »

Primescape is having a "moving sale" on remaining tree frames.  Not many left.  The prices are reduced and offer a very nice long term investment.  As said before, get a freight quote.  They are industrial strength heavy!
Bob Skillings
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smallscaper
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2011, 01:04:23 PM »

Also, keep in mind that the taller the display stand, the more difficult it is to reach in to access the top tiers from a ladder (due to the fact that the wide base portion forces you to position the ladder pretty far out from the center of the stand).  That applies to installation and takedown of course, but also to maintenance functions (watering, grooming, replacing plants that fail).  If you don't have ape arms, you'll need to figure a way around that obstacle.

That said, the Primescape units are very sturdy, but you will need at least two people to assemble the taller sizes due to weight and balance issues with such a heavy piece of equipment and its parts.

Clem
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natalie_fid
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2011, 02:14:30 PM »

I have the price list for Primescape's moving sale... Very attractive pricing Smiley I plan to lease the base to the client and sell the poinsettias with weekly maintenance. Thank you all for your input, I appreciate it very much. I hadn't thought about sippers, or the issue with reaching the top of a taller unit from a ladder for maintenance... this is exactly why I posted!
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Julie A. Blymire
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2011, 02:56:29 PM »

Here's another quirky thing that we do.  Because you must move the ladder to maintain the poinsettias, we were forever losing our place as to where we had watered already.  We now take a small stake and put a flag on it to mark where we stopped every time, then move it as we go.  Sure makes it easier!

Julie
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natalie_fid
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2011, 03:00:14 PM »

thats a good idea Julie! ( I have plant stakes with my company logo on them that say plant provided by..... Smiley ) good marketing tool if you leave them behind...
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smallscaper
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2011, 03:18:21 PM »

That's why I liked the old Creative Displays unit we had...it came equipped with a "spaghetti-tube" watering system mounted right on the tiers of the unit, so you could drop a Chapin tube into each pot, connect a hose or watering machine to the fitting at the bottom, and water the whole thing in one shot.  Not sure whether the Primescape version has that option, but it sure beats climbing that ladder, up and down a zillion times a week!

Clem
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aggaboo
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2011, 07:56:48 PM »

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A sharing resource for the Interior Plantscape Professional.

Steve
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smallscaper
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2011, 08:22:04 PM »

Must be that socialist streak I have hidden deep inside my psyche that makes me do it.  Wink

Clem
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